Ralph Bakshi

ibaraki · Stomper Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 258 Location: Ohio

Speaking of John Hurt and voice acting and animated films and Watership Down and the such. Anyone happen to know where to get an uncut version of The Plague Dogs or if it is going to come out on DVD anytime soon?

JAM · Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 3:42 pm Post subject:

I most definitely don't think Bakshi's LOTR is his weakest flick. Sure, it was flawed and certainly rushed towards the end, but films like Cool World and Fire and Ice were not done as well (that's just my opinion). In the end Peter Jackson did a pretty good job re-creating these stories, but I too find myself not enjoying them as much as time goes by (and it's not even been a year since the last release). I just remembered another thing taken from the Bakshi cartoon and used in Jackson's version. The whole opening. The explanation of the whole story - this is not in the book like that. Of course Jackson uses a female voice instead of the male voice of Gandalf. - BUT WAIT - could Jackson have been influenced by the female voice of WIZARDS? That intro IS very powerful and perhaps Jackson took from that as well. For sure the intro to Jackson's LOTR is very reminiscent of the intro to WIZARDS.

Brandon · Guest

The Plague Dogs is an excellent animated film but sadly it is not available on DVD.

ibaraki · Stomper Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 258 Location: Ohio

And if The Plague Dogs ever comes out on DVD it will most likely be the 90min edit.

Heavy · Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:24 am Post subject:

The Plague Dogs is available on DVD in the UK for a long time:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006JI1H/qid=1100510565/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_10_1/026-4049146-2552412

Apparently, it's the cut version. Watch the trailer here:

http://www.anchorbay.co.uk/perl/search.pl?CO=ABD4120
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dnvillalpando · Guest

Hello everyone!

I know there's lots of controversy regarding this film, but it is, in my opinion, one of the greatest ever made. I know Bakshi purists may disagree, but it is easily my favorite of his films, and simply BURIES the Jackson films, which I think are 90% idiotic Hollywood drivel.

I've been collecting Bakshi material for some time, and nothing has disappointed me more than the pathetic DVD version that was released by WB in order to make a quick buck on the Jackson films. I loved seeing the widescreen version (finally) and the transfer wasn't bad, but the overdubbing at the end was CRIMINAL, and the lack of any special features was just horrible. It would have been INCREDIBLE to see 1/4 of the stuff that we know exists out there as bonus material to the film - including:

20 minutes excised from the film
the live action film
storyboards
an explanation of how the film was developed
plans for part ii
drafts of the screenplay
print interviews
and of course a director's commentary

WB did us a favor by releasing the film on DVD, but I still feel robbed. I'd give just about anything to have a definitive version re-released.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!

Someone mentioned the trailer to the film - I, as many of us do, I'm sure, have a copy of the trailer as it appeared on the Thorn Emi VHS version of the movie. Also I have a 35 mm print of an "all text" trailer for the film. I haven't had it transfered to video yet, but it's sitting here on my desk.

I also have the fotonovel and the film book and all that. I have also collected several drafts of the screenplay in order to follow the development.

I would be willing to donate anything necessary to the site, though I'm sure Ralph and Liz have copies of everything I do.

Anyway, thanks for everything, and thanks especially for this great new site! I LOVE it!!!

david
dnvillalpando at yahoo dot com

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Heavy · Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:48 am Post subject:

dnvillalpando

Heavy · Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 4:25 pm Post subject:

Man, you should have been the DVD producer of this film! The final result would have been stellar!
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Guest · Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:06 am Post subject:

Since the day i saw LOTRS (bakshi's) in my home town i have been said till this day the story was not finished. Movies were a big thing when i was a kid i use to go every week. On another note, Peter jackson did a 10 out of 10 job and won 11 awards! Not a bad effort for someone who really hadn't done many big budget movies (none). I say he's da man! And Ralph and Toliken as well! Ok, not forgetting crumb & Matt groeing! Underground comic warlords! Cool

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dnvillalpando · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 1:44 pm Post subject: Bo Hansson's Lord of the Rings

Are any other LotR fans as enamored with Bo Hansson's "Lord of the Rings" recording as I am? It's an absolutely gorgeous piece of music, and captures the atmosphere of Middle Earth perfectly. It's a piece on par with Rosenman's score to the Bakshi film and light years ahead of Howard Shore's trite little score to the Jackson movies.

I wish more director's were adventurous enough to go with music that's aggressive in their films. My 3 favorite all time scores are:

"The Last Temptation of Christ" - Peter Gabriel
"The Lord of the Rings" - Leonard Rosenman
"Requiem for a Dream" - Clint Mansell

Sorry, off on a tangent.

david

Mike · Guest

When I compare the Peter Jackson film's and Bakshi's version of this classic tale, I find that Bakshi's is preferable. It really boils down to this:

Peter Jackson's movies are a conglomeration of many different films (including the bakshi cartoon). Many of the scenes seem faintly familiar, all of them imitated from some earlier work. This is not peter Jackson's vision of Middle-Earth: this is a splicing together of Phillipa Boyen's, and John Howe's, and yes, even Bakshi's ideas. And it definately falls flat, because I've already watched all of this before.

Bakshi's film, on the other hand, is his own vision of Middle-Earth, pure and simple. You may not like his interpretations (and many people don't), but they're his own. When I watch this cartoon, it gives me insight on someone else's idea of what Tolkien wrote. I am also watching something new, a new take on the book. Sometimes its twisted, wierd, and sometimes I don't like it (as is the case with Boromir's looks), but the whole thing is fresh, even after all these years.

In the end, I think I'm more on wavelength with Mr. Bakshi, because his is the one I can watch over and over again, while Jackson's is the one I get sick and tired of.