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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:51 pm    Post subject: Cool World (1993) Reply with quote

Heavy wrote:
Same rules apply as on the Fritz the Cat thread.

Let's treat this man with respect! He was able to come out with an even wilder and bolder approach to the animation medium after his high watermark, Heavy Traffic! Except noone was ready for it! Are we now?


I just had to add specific threads for the rest of Bakshi's feature films.

Heavy started this project, I'm just finishing it. Wink

This one was basically stolen from Mr. Bakshi, but we still need to keep the discussion light and objective please.

Hope This Helps,

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I think I said this before but I'll say it again; I lilke Cool World and it's my all time favorite Bakshi film.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Cool World. I don't know why it is dumped upon all the time. I think if Who Framed Roger Rabbit never came out it would be a higher rated film.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The comparisons kill both...if a viewer would just watch each film without any bias, they could c that both films r great in their own individual ways...neither one is a failure...it really makes a redundant argument after awhile, hearing people make the comparison over and over (and in my own comparison: it's like trying 2 find a connection between E.T. and the Gremlins, or Star Trek and Star Wars).

...That comparison, just because, just because...doesn't say much about Cool World at all.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did CW do in Europe? How are the CW DVD releases doing there now?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't compare Cool World to Who Framed Rober Rabbit myself but a lot of critics did when the film came out just because it happened to use live actors and animated characters which was really nothing new seeing as Disney was doing it since the 40's.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, MGM did it first because the first animated/live action film was the one with Gene Kelly as the sailor guy and he danced with Jerry from Tom and Jerry and believe me; I'm serious. Why else would I be called Movie-Brat?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool World Post - On the Animation Show's website forums.

It sucks that he calls Cool World "Bakshi's Roger Rabbit" but I think what Steve Stanchfield says in his post is kind of interesting.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Movie-Brat wrote:
Actually, MGM did it first because the first animated/live action film was the one with Gene Kelly as the sailor guy and he danced with Jerry from Tom and Jerry and believe me; I'm serious. Why else would I be called Movie-Brat?


actually movie-brat, i'll think you'll find it goes back to disney's Alice series of shorts back in the early 20's.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doc wrote:
i'll think you'll find it goes back to disney's Alice series of shorts back in the early 20's.


I think the milestone with Roger Rabbit and Cool World were the animated characters' more tangible interactions with their live-action counterparts. Even this, however, has been done before. I remember Mickey Mouse shaking hands with the conductor in "Fantasia." That totally blew my mind when I was a kid.

But both Movie-Brat and Doc have good points. I've never understood why live-action/animation is considered "innovative" when it's simply revived after hibernation.

Not to mention that recent experiments in this medium have been less than successful. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...I wanna say also, many people seem 2 ignore the aspect of Cool World...many of the doodles have this dark paranoic mentality, that is pretty much a mockery of most people I see on the street on a daily basis...Ralph and Barry were able 2 capture a very dark atmosphere, but maintaining the innocence of classic animation at the same time...I've noticed many people don't give them credit 4 that visualization...

...The bowels of Cool World is like an animated ghetto! Despite the classic hollywood "chase", Ralph was still able 2 get his side-story social satire in many parts of the film as it seems...and the other half being very apocalyptic...it can b mind-boggling when u think about how dynamic the film is.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:02 pm    Post subject: Roger Rabbit Reply with quote

Have any of you ever read the book Who Censored Roger Rabbit, which is what the movie Who Framed Roger Rabbit is loosley (loosley is being kind) based on? It is actually a mystery novel for adults about how someone kills Roger Rabbit and Eddie Valient has to solve the case, and Roger's Doppleganger (I forget how you spell it-- its like his clone) and Eddie have like only a short time to solve the murder before Roger's Doppleganger dies. In the book they were comic strip actors, not cartoon actors. Also, Judge Doom isn't even in the book, Jessica is a p*rn-star, and all the cartoon characters speak in word bubbles.

I don't want to give the ending away to anyone, but it is a good book. The movie is also very good, but very different.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I didn't know the movie was very different from the book, I think Disney wanted the Stanley Kubrick vibe for Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doc wrote:
actually movie-brat, i'll think you'll find it goes back to disney's Alice series of shorts back in the early 20's.


Wasn't there a Out of the Inkwell short from the 1910s in which a live-action actor met KoKo the clown?

Maybe we should give the Fleischer brothers credit for the whole live-action/animation hybrid thing.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mazda's "Cool World" commercial:



This commercial is not based on Bakshi's "Cool World" (1992), although, I do find it interesting that Mazda chose to name this commercial "Cool World"; and not to mention the twisted cityscape and background paintings, which in my opinion, somewhat resembles Barry Jackson's artwork.

This commercial has been praised for it's creativity and originality, but I feel like it's kind of "Vanilla Iced" in a way, if you know what I mean.

What do you think?

If you're curious you can view the commercial here!

Also, here's some information about the making of the Mazda "Cool World" commercial:

http://www.awn.com/mag/issue3.12/3.12pages/huelsmansteele.php3
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