Ralph Bakshi

Cinema-Guy · Citizen of Montagar Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 163

No I very much seen Monty Python and the Holy Grail, hilarious by the way, my favorite scene was with the Three Headed Knight.
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dnvillalpando · Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:14 am Post subject:

I hate that flying moose site and I doubly *hate* that most people who have an opinion of Bakshi's LotR got their opinion from that site.

There is nothing of interest on it. The guy is a total bozo and understands neither Tolkien, Bakshi or animation.

Gah, I just hate it.

That said, Sauron does look kinda unlike I envisioned him in the silohette introduction, but that's what artistic interpretation is about. Plus I don't think the Shadow of the Past sequence is supposed to be taken "visually literally" if that makes any sense.

The big problem I have with the scene, and 100 x over Jackson's 100x magnification of the "mistake" is that Sauron gets his finger chopped off and somehow that destroys him. It makes a helluva lot more sense in Bakshi's "theater" version than in the "photo realistic" Jackson version (and that we get to see it 500 times in the Jackson version). It makes absolutely no sense. Sauron takes off the ring and explodes? What a lame ring he's made for himself if that's the case!!!

What actually happened is Gil Galad and Isildur's father (name escapes me) slew Sauron but both died in the process, and Isildur came along, vulture like, and sawed the ring off of Sauron's dead hand. Now THAT is a cool way to get a ring, and much better character development for Isildur and Sauron than having him explode because some numnutz chops off his big assed finger.

Anyway, rewind a bit. There is some animation extant (cels now, I don't know if it was ever actually animated) of the "Shadow of the Past" segment. There's an image of both Bilbo and Gollum (both young) with the ring. I wonder what was planned for this stuff and why/when it got cut. A good question for Ralph at some point...

david

Cinema-Guy · Citizen of Montagar Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 163

But I'm sure the General Public has a different opinion about Bakshi's LOTR.
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JKS · Stomper Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 693 Location: Alaska

Fuck the general public!!!

Cinema-Guy · Citizen of Montagar Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 163

dnvillalpando · Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject:

Brother Rabbit · Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:05 pm Post subject:

I've never visited that site, but there are certainly a lot of biased views being passed around on the internet about every subject every day. It's our job as inquisitive minds to figure out which info is biased and which is legit.

Also...

I think it's pretty clear that JKS's statement was only meant for shock value.

Please JKS, keep your comments constructive. No one-liner exclamations if possible, just constructive comments. Thanks.

And yes CG, David was being sarcastic. So don't go saying that he is so smart for loving Titanic please. It will only embarras us both.

Sincerely,

Brother Rabbit
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JKS · Stomper Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 693 Location: Alaska

Heh, heh, sorry about that Laughing

That wasn't meant to be posted Embarassed

JC101 · Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:41 pm Post subject:

*Looks like there is still some hope left 4 Bakshi's forums*

I think certain subjects have been killed beyond death around here lately.

Guest · Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:30 pm Post subject:

Hello, I'm so glad I've found this forum. Since I was 12 and first saw Bakshi's LOTR at the theater in 78 ( and loved it so much! ) I whished I can find more info about this movie. Not easy, especially before the internet era... And the lack of special features on the DVD was terribly disappointing ! So, this website is a dream come true! Great gallery!
Also, maybe fellow fans can help me answer some questions ?
I wondered:
-who did the art of the original poster ?
- This link
See here
features art by Paul Rivoche apparently related to the cartoon. I wondered, was it production art, or promotional art ?
- In the credits list on the website: is it the now famous Tim Burton, uncredited as in-between artist ?
-Also, before Bakshi had the guts to do it, I heard Walt Disney owned LOTR rights for a while but in the end, he gave up and did Sword in the Stone instead. Is it true ?

Well, I hope I don't bother with my questions...
Anyway,I have signed the petition. How I whish there was a special edition DVD! Very Happy

Isaac · Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject:

Hi. I cannot answer all of your questions, as I am not quite as knowledgeable on certain subjects as others may be (I've never pretended to know everything, because I don't know everything). But here are the questions I can answer. Perhaps another member will be able to answer your other questions.

Val · Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 3

Oops, I made a mistake... "Guest" message was by me. "anonymous" was not intended, sorry.

Thanks a lot for your answers, Isaac!

dnvillalpando · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:47 am Post subject: Welcome

First of all, welcome to ralphbakshi.com Val!

Val · Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 3

Thanks for the warm welcome, dnvillalpando,
and thanks for your answers. Very interesting !

Isaac · Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:48 am Post subject: