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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Put a Cool World Secial Edition on DVD, but I'm still going for a remake and I wonder, how would Paul W.S. Anderson try to bring Bakshi's original version of Cool World to life? |
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Isaac Stomper

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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: wot happened? |
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| appleanimator wrote: | | Could COOL WORLD as we know it be "tweaked"? |
No. The problem is with the screenplay.
You can't try and "George Lucas-ize" the film as it was shot because the project Ralph originally envisioned was pulled out from under him and replaced with something different.
We are dealing with two completely different films here, the one Ralph wanted to make and the one Ralph ended up making, because of problems with the studios.
No amount of digital correction can fix this.
Forget about what Lucas did with Star Wars.
Forget that Spielberg replaced the guns with walkie-talkies in E.T.
Cool World is what it is -- and it is simply impossible to re-do it the way Ralph wanted it simply by re-editing it and adding digital effects.
The only way for Ralph to get the results he originally wanted with the picture is to shoot a new film from Ralph's original script.
Ralph wasn't angling for a imitation Roger Rabbit: he wanted an R-rated horror movie that combined live action with animation, not a PG-13 comedy. |
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| That's the spirit Issac, go for the remake and let me ask you this, should Paul W.S. Anderson direct the Cool World remake? After all, he did had an experience of making a R-Rated Horror movie. Remember Resident Evil? |
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Isaac Stomper

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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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I can't speak for Paul W.S. Anderson, as I've never seen "Resident Evil," though I heard it was terrible (generally, most video game movies are awful in my opinion).
But, if there is going to be a re-make of Cool World, Ralph would be the only one to do it.
There is no exception: he is the only person to bring his original vision to the screen and show everyone that Cool World wasn't always a bad movie: the bad qualities of the film were tacked on by greedy producers and bad screenwriters. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| But how would Wes Craven try to remake Cool World? |
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| And what Joel Schumacher? Is he good enough to direct Cool World? After all, he had an experience of directing a Horror movie and that movie is The Lost Boys. |
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Isaac Stomper

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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Movie-Brat wrote: | | And what Joel Schumacher? Is he good enough to direct Cool World? After all, he had an experience of directing a Horror movie and that movie is The Lost Boys. |
As much as I like The Lost Boys, Schumacher's inept attempts to film the characters of the Batman universe (Batman Forever and the "90 minute gay joke," as Kevin Smith has described it: Batman & Robin) really turned me off the guy's work.
It's amazing that the guy still got work after those pictures came out. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, at least he made another good movie which is The Phantom of the Opera and what about John Harrison (Director of Tales from the Darkside: The Movie)? Is he good enough to remake Cool World? |
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Isaac Stomper

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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Movie-Brat wrote: | | Is he good enough to remake Cool World? |
The only director who is good enough to remake Cool World is Ralph himself: no other director can capture his vision. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| But what about Tim Burton? He worked as an animator on Lord of the Rings and Mighty Mouse. |
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Mad Max Minion of Scortch 1

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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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If he were to remake it, I think the remake should go into more depth than the original did. It should explain some things. Like, how did the Cool World come into being? Has it always existed? Or had it only recently been formed by the time Frank Harris got there. And what about what Frank said about "We mapped out the tunnel. The passage way between both worlds." What was that all about? It would have been great to see what adventures Frank and Doc Whiskers had when they were iMapping out the tunneli and cover how they discovered how the balance of the universe could be disrupted. A great back-story and history to Cool World would have helped the original immensely _________________ "Why does a great actor like James Earl Jones always have to play black men?"
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Steve G

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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Movie-Brat wrote: | | But what about Tim Burton? He worked as an animator on Lord of the Rings and Mighty Mouse. |
Is that what Tim's been saying?  |
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Mad Max wrote: | | If he were to remake it, I think the remake should go into more depth than the original did. It should explain some things. Like, how did the Cool World come into being? Has it always existed? Or had it only recently been formed by the time Frank Harris got there. And what about what Frank said about "We mapped out the tunnel. The passage way between both worlds." What was that all about? It would have been great to see what adventures Frank and Doc Whiskers had when they were iMapping out the tunneli and cover how they discovered how the balance of the universe could be disrupted. A great back-story and history to Cool World would have helped the original immensely |
Max, u should read what Ralph's original concept of what Cool World WAS supposed 2 b through this link below...what we c in the film is only fragments of what Ralph's intentions were, so nothing here can b explained, it's merely just a satire by it's own turn of events...his real film is "behind the scenes".
http://www.ralphbakshi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11
This is the link 2 that old thread.
...I may add also the Cool World prequel comics add a bit more of a solid story 2 the final results of Cool World (which u can find a few shots in the Film section).
...But nothing in the prequel series makes "Cool World" into a "Star Wars"...what u c, is what u get with this film...the real story is what's drawn from the themes within itself. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Id before it just to see what mr Bakshi feels was left out his art inspires me so much and anything new of his would be a blessing and we always have the old one he made and could still enjoy it _________________ "Master loves Larry. Master feeds Larry."
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John Pannozzi Stomper

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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I think Ralph really should direct this Cool World remake, as it's his baby, his idea, but if he's unable to make it (if he's too busy with other projects, or old and retired, or, and I hope this doesn't happen for while, he dies), Tim Burton or Joe Dante (who are both great horror-film makers as well as cartoon-lovers) should direct it IMHO. |
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